tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post5487575063864133887..comments2023-09-30T09:41:52.224-07:00Comments on The Well Spoken Negro's Salon: "Okay, So Wassup Wit Cho Gurl?"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-41783916672540896442008-06-05T22:30:00.000-07:002008-06-05T22:30:00.000-07:00Re: Politi Gal's comments Pls keep up that attitu...Re: Politi Gal's comments <BR/><BR/>Pls keep up that attitude towards poor folks who live in trailer parks. The Dems elitist attitude toward ordinary Americans is what helps Republicans win. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous number one, if that is your real name, put down the cup and step away from the Kool-Aid. I know it's tasty and saves you from the terrible burden of thought, but trust me, when you wake tomorrow, the evil elixir worn off, the trailer-park will look bright, and full of new possibilities (though your sister will look far less attractive-time to break it off big guy). <BR/><BR/>But you have to put down the Kool-Aid! For God's sake, won't you just...put down the Kool-Aid (and grow a pair and leave your name on your next comment.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-15867458370780440532008-05-15T16:48:00.000-07:002008-05-15T16:48:00.000-07:00I see you've been reading Bob Herbert in the NYT, ...I see you've been reading Bob Herbert in the NYT, as well as Andrew Sullivan. <BR/><BR/>The only thing that surprises me, Free, is that you're surprised. When Hillary started losing, and her campaign decided on a strategy called "the kitchen sink," what did you think they'd do?<BR/><BR/>I mean, this is a feminist whose response to her husband's behavior with women was to demonize the women. <BR/><BR/>If it makes you feel any better, in my view HRC attacked women before she attacked black people. Remember that whole strain of "you're betraying other women if you vote for Obama?" In other words: do what I say or you're not *really* a feminist/loyal to womankind. <BR/><BR/>I'm delighted that Obama is going to wrap this thing up soon, and we're all going to go back to being angry with our current leadership. This would be a good time to focus on the fact that we're arguing about whether a woman or a bi-racial man will make a better candidate, in a year when we're pretty confident the Dems can actually *win.* <BR/><BR/>That's history, dude. And we're living it. Whatever HRC says, she can't touch that.Fionahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13621216725935523487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-21080030488660793792008-05-15T13:51:00.000-07:002008-05-15T13:51:00.000-07:00http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/14/AR2008051403090.html?hpid=opinionsbox1<BR/><BR/>The link didn't translate: <BR/>Here it is again, and if this doesn't work, then it is Marie Cocco's op-ed in today's Wash Post, entitled "Misogyny I won't Miss"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-54827013455304119142008-05-15T13:48:00.000-07:002008-05-15T13:48:00.000-07:00http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/14/AR2008051403090.html?hpid=opinionsbox1<BR/><BR/>You sure about the misogyny?...<BR/><BR/>Hillary is a woman and society are uncomfortable with the prominence that a female is playing in politics now. Gender has nothing to do with the fact that she and her advisers are injecting race into the campaign.<BR/><BR/>And no, I am not voting for Hillary come November. I am voting for the Democratic candidate, no matter who it is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16073692079418738172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-9137916438019586192008-05-14T23:01:00.000-07:002008-05-14T23:01:00.000-07:00My humble (and heartfelt) apologies to Anonymous n...My humble (and heartfelt) apologies to Anonymous number one. Admittedly I get a little (maybe even a lot) worked up, and it would appear that I am guilty of engaging in friendly fire. I have an itchy trigger finger lately.<BR/><BR/>This will, indeed, be my first presidential election, but I wouldn't call my misdirected response a case of "naive (albeit refreshing) innocence"... as I am neither refreshing nor innocent.Politi Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499261168116465903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-34814662058155774412008-05-14T14:58:00.000-07:002008-05-14T14:58:00.000-07:00Oh... politi gal, as this is likely your first pr...Oh... politi gal, as this is likely your first presidential election, I guess we can forgive your naive (albeit refreshing) innocence.<BR/><BR/>Can someone give me some specific examples of HRC's tactics and/or rhetoric? I'm just interested in hearing what people think are the worst examples.<BR/><BR/>As for Kool-Aid... that's why I am voting for Obama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-48542599362414200852008-05-14T14:42:00.000-07:002008-05-14T14:42:00.000-07:00Spray-painted on the Vincennes Obama campaign offi...Spray-painted on the Vincennes Obama campaign office:<BR/><BR/>"We don't cling to guns or religion. Goddamn Wright."<BR/><BR/>It appears that at least some people conceptualize Obama's words within a racial context rather than as a matter of elitism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-69553995579370557252008-05-13T09:48:00.000-07:002008-05-13T09:48:00.000-07:00Of course race is an issue in the US. One obvious...Of course race is an issue in the US. One obvious expression of that--and it drives me crazy!--is that Barack Obama is always referred to as "a black man" when in fact he is a mixed-race man. The media, which uses the first label, is a reflection of our society.<BR/><BR/>But the point is that that Hillary Clinton's campaign rhetoric and tactics did not work to deal with the issue of race in a positive, constructive way, in a manner consistent with the Clintons'long history of emphasizing the commonalities between people--particularly poor and working class people--rather than the racial and cultural differences that differentiate them. Both Clintons, and definitely Bill Clinton more than Hillary Clinton, have presented themselves as European Americans with strong ties to the African American community. How many times have we heard that Bill Clinton was the "blackest president" in American history? That's pretty strong evidence that the Clintons have enjoyed a reputation as being beyond race. <BR/><BR/>Certainly Obama's campaign has emphasized his mixed race heritage, but most pundits--and most white Americans--have not framed his remarks about poor white folks in racial terms, but as "elitist," as a class issue. Race and class = apples and oranges. <BR/><BR/>People reveal something fundamental about their character in these types of competitions when the stakes are extraordinarily high. Are the Clintons racists? Certainly less so than probably the majority of people--black, white, brown, Indian, and Asian--in American society. Most assuredly they are smart, ambitious and determined, determined to win at any cost, it seems. The price of their ambition is carried by all Americans who care about the state of our country, the world, and the role that race plays therein.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-67625036705151147592008-05-13T05:59:00.000-07:002008-05-13T05:59:00.000-07:00Anonymous number one, if that is your real name, p...Anonymous number one, if that is your real name, put down the cup and step away from the <A HREF="http://www.gotoquiz.com/do_you_drink_republican_kool_aid" REL="nofollow">Kool-Aid</A>. I know it's tasty and saves you from the terrible burden of thought, but trust me, when you wake tomorrow, the evil elixir worn off, the trailer-park will look bright, and full of new possibilities (though your sister will look far less attractive-time to break it off big guy). <BR/><BR/>But you have to put down the Kool-Aid! For God's sake, won't you just...put down the Kool-Aid (and grow a pair and leave your name on your next comment.)Politi Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499261168116465903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-57541290501802186672008-05-12T14:12:00.000-07:002008-05-12T14:12:00.000-07:00Well, I think that HRC is flirting seriously with ...Well, I think that HRC is flirting seriously with dealing poorly with this issue in this campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-18748467160048488462008-05-12T12:05:00.000-07:002008-05-12T12:05:00.000-07:00Ok, ok. We all know that in an ideal world race w...Ok, ok. We all know that in an ideal world race would not play an issue (nor would gender for that matter). But, let's be realistic. Race is an issue - and has been since the inception of the country. <BR/><BR/>For all of his rhetoric about change and bridging racial gaps, Obama certainly has a clearly identifiable perception of whites... well... at least poor whites. <BR/><BR/>Afterall, one has to wonder why Obama would NOT find it surprising when frustrated whites "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them..."<BR/><BR/>Seriously? <BR/><BR/>Let's not blame HRC for "injecting"<BR/>race into the campaign. It's there. How the candidates deal with the issue is the critical factor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com