tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post5794750649571458396..comments2023-09-30T09:41:52.224-07:00Comments on The Well Spoken Negro's Salon: Is This a Bridge Too Far?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-40038557031425340422010-09-29T19:20:38.045-07:002010-09-29T19:20:38.045-07:00And I don't run away from that liberal designa...And I don't run away from that liberal designation, like people who talk about being "progressive." lolhscfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15248588351369527519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-67924509816527726052010-09-29T19:16:47.525-07:002010-09-29T19:16:47.525-07:00Interesting. You seem to see it purely as a law en...Interesting. You seem to see it purely as a law enforcement issue, while I see it as military/international policy issue. Generally, speaking the US doesn’t have criminal jurisdiction overseas. <br /><br />And while you are against the administration on this issue you are totally in line with most liberals, blogs, Daily Show, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-25201843191813514462010-09-28T20:47:01.867-07:002010-09-28T20:47:01.867-07:00The follow-up doesn't work for the issue. The...The follow-up doesn't work for the issue. The scenarios you've described are things that we've seen. And in those scenarios you've described there is likely an attempt to stop the crime and bring the criminal in. If the criminal refuses, then law enforcement has the legal authority to bring the situation to a close, even if that includes killing the criminal.<br />That is not the case with this crazy cleric dude. It would be more like if he were walking down the street, and law enforcement saw him, then he would have to be killed, because the government says he is to be killed. That is the problem at the heart of this case.hscfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15248588351369527519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-26982779032081382362010-09-28T20:39:39.226-07:002010-09-28T20:39:39.226-07:00I'd already said that the scenario you mention...I'd already said that the scenario you mentioned in your first statement is fine. What you described there actually fit my point.<br />Actually, I would draw the line at announcing that our intention, as a government, is to assassinate an American without giving him/her an opportunity to be prosecuted. It flies in the face publicly of what we say we stand for. What is wrong with catching the guy and brining him to justice? <br />Again, even the worst alleged criminal is due a day in court, why should this guy be treated differently. catch him in the commission of a crime, and he attempts to kill law enforcement, then let the chips fall.hscfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15248588351369527519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-17125812663255961572010-09-28T20:32:27.358-07:002010-09-28T20:32:27.358-07:00Follow-up. Are there any circumstances that the as...Follow-up. Are there any circumstances that the assassination of an American would be OK? What if they were holding a gun to the head of another American in a 3rd country? What if they were holding a gun to the head of a foreign child? If one is going to come up with a policy you have to grapple with these scenarios.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-29992518115262123062010-09-28T19:59:13.386-07:002010-09-28T19:59:13.386-07:00What if we targeted the specific building that the...What if we targeted the specific building that the American civilian (working for the Japanese during WWII) was working in knowing that he was one of 10 people likely to be working in the building. What if the target was material in the building and killing the people was just icing on the cake? Or what if the target was the people? Does it make a difference? If the American was alone or one of 100, does that make a difference? What is your definition of assassination? What if Congress declared war, would that make a difference? Is it the location that bothers you? What if the American was in Iraq, or Afghanistan? I’m not claiming a historical precedent, I’m posing a hypothetical to try to understand where you draw the lines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-86964815866714187022010-09-27T20:47:37.142-07:002010-09-27T20:47:37.142-07:00Your examples don't fit. I can't recall a...Your examples don't fit. I can't recall a single instance where anyone fitting your description was specifically singled out for assassination. I have no problem if during a random drone attack to kill bin Laden, for example, some American working/fighting against was killed by happenstance. They shouldn't have been working/fighting against us. And I didn't realize that standing up for the Constitution in this sense, as opposed to seeking to alter the 14th amendment, or having a fetish for the 2nd or 10th amendments, or wishing to abolish the 17th, all while preaching that the U.S. Constitution is a sacrosanct document, was merely echoing liberal talking points and not dealing with hard questions. By the way, you might have noticed that this is a position I hold against the Obama administration.hscfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15248588351369527519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5905181885778117365.post-27375193167510393152010-09-27T20:34:53.934-07:002010-09-27T20:34:53.934-07:00What about an American who fought against the alli...What about an American who fought against the allies wearing a German uniform? Could we kill him on the battlefield? Or an American civilian working for the Japanese during WWII. Could we drop a bomb on his office? You have echoed the liberal blogosphere's TPs, but have you asked yourself any hard questions? Where are you drawing the lines?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com