Why in Jesus' name is the U.S. House voting on ensuring that the motto "In God We Trust" remains? Really? Really? I'm even more embarrassed that a Virginian is spearheading this madness.
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The legislation is surely symbolic, but it is a good reminder that church attendence is the biggest indicator of party identification. A churchgoing D seems to be a rarity these days--I'm not sure JFK or Jimmy Carter could get the nomination today. The heart of the D party is not in Detroit or Memphis, it's in Martha's Vineyard.
@Anon: Though I am not one of them, I think that you are clearly forgetting black folks (the "brain washed" according to Herman Cain), who continue to have solid and consistent church attendance. By the way, everyone who goes to church, regardless of race, is a conservative Republican, so church attendence alone is not the best indicator of party.
Should a Muslim majority, or Hindu majority, or any non-Christian crowd emerge in a state, and decide to "tweak" the language of said state to reflect the populations beliefs (or non-belief), no one can say anything about it. Never mind the day these groups (rightfully) seek inclusiveness at the federal level.
For the "My United States is Christian, white, and heterosexual" types, a dose of their own can't happen soon enough.
John--what's stopping you? Stop talking about it and get on a plane...it's a tired threat. And where is this secular paradise you dream of? India? Pretty religious. Africa--very religious. latin america? catholic. Even communist chinese have a lot of spiritual practices. Maybe, you'll like the middle east? Perhaps you only want to "escape" to rich N. European countries.
@Anon 4: That is one of the dumbest statements I've seen in the comments in a long time. Someone challenges the use of an unnecessary vote, and that's "unpatriotic?" Really? The various posts on this blog are "unpatriotic?" Even some of my most conservative friends wouldn't come close to saying that.
I think it was my comment that drew the "unpatriotic" criticism. America could be a great country and has all of the resources to be one. But, we are clearly misguided when we think that we need to define it as a Christian country (or a White country, etc.).
At Anonymous 3 (5:14 PM), I have left the country - several times, and for several years. I've lived in Samoa, Ecuador, Belgium and New Zealand. There are other great places to live out there. What's stopping me now? I'm committed to a mortgage on a home that has dropped significantly in value and I'm committed to paying off that loan. I'm not anti-American at all, but I'm also not afraid of people who are different from me, or people who have a different system of religious or spiritual beliefs. And, I don't need the government to perpetuate systems of intolerance.
Unpatriotic? So what! ... Our very nation was founded on some rather unpatriotic notions (if you view it from the eyes of Great Britain or the Tory majority who lived in the colonies at the time) ... I get so nauseated by this idea -- propogated by the Right and Idiot America -- that just because we happen to be Americans, we are supposed to fall all over ourselves to get in line ... We question our country because we love it, Anon ... We criticize it because we want it to live up to its potential ...
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The legislation is surely symbolic, but it is a good reminder that church attendence is the biggest indicator of party identification. A churchgoing D seems to be a rarity these days--I'm not sure JFK or Jimmy Carter could get the nomination today. The heart of the D party is not in Detroit or Memphis, it's in Martha's Vineyard.
I want to get the hell out of this country....
@Anon: Though I am not one of them, I think that you are clearly forgetting black folks (the "brain washed" according to Herman Cain), who continue to have solid and consistent church attendance. By the way, everyone who goes to church, regardless of race, is a conservative Republican, so church attendence alone is not the best indicator of party.
@John: I knew I would make you nostalgic for the Kiwis with that link I sent to you from The Dish yesterday.
I'm fine with this precident.
Should a Muslim majority, or Hindu majority, or any non-Christian crowd emerge in a state, and decide to "tweak" the language of said state to reflect the populations beliefs (or non-belief), no one can say anything about it. Never mind the day these groups (rightfully) seek inclusiveness at the federal level.
For the "My United States is Christian, white, and heterosexual" types, a dose of their own can't happen soon enough.
I'm just sayin'...
God virus. The nation is sick.
John--what's stopping you? Stop talking about it and get on a plane...it's a tired threat. And where is this secular paradise you dream of? India? Pretty religious. Africa--very religious. latin america? catholic. Even communist chinese have a lot of spiritual practices. Maybe, you'll like the middle east? Perhaps you only want to "escape" to rich N. European countries.
Is it any wonder that liberals are painted as unpatriotic? You are! Look at these posts...
@Anon 4: That is one of the dumbest statements I've seen in the comments in a long time. Someone challenges the use of an unnecessary vote, and that's "unpatriotic?" Really? The various posts on this blog are "unpatriotic?" Even some of my most conservative friends wouldn't come close to saying that.
I think it was my comment that drew the "unpatriotic" criticism. America could be a great country and has all of the resources to be one. But, we are clearly misguided when we think that we need to define it as a Christian country (or a White country, etc.).
At Anonymous 3 (5:14 PM), I have left the country - several times, and for several years. I've lived in Samoa, Ecuador, Belgium and New Zealand. There are other great places to live out there. What's stopping me now? I'm committed to a mortgage on a home that has dropped significantly in value and I'm committed to paying off that loan. I'm not anti-American at all, but I'm also not afraid of people who are different from me, or people who have a different system of religious or spiritual beliefs. And, I don't need the government to perpetuate systems of intolerance.
Unpatriotic? So what! ... Our very nation was founded on some rather unpatriotic notions (if you view it from the eyes of Great Britain or the Tory majority who lived in the colonies at the time) ... I get so nauseated by this idea -- propogated by the Right and Idiot America -- that just because we happen to be Americans, we are supposed to fall all over ourselves to get in line ... We question our country because we love it, Anon ... We criticize it because we want it to live up to its potential ...
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