Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Is This a Bridge Too Far? II

If you recall, I did a post about the case surrounding the situation with Anwar al-Awlaki.  In that post, I relied heavily on postings written by Salon's Glenn Greenwald, and I agreed with many of the points he raised on the subject.  Now, Andrew Sullivan has offered a lengthy answer (following an earlier posting) to questions that Greenwald raised, and it makes for a fascinating read.  Sullivan also makes some really good and potentially, for me, persuasive points.  I strongly encourage the folks who read this blog to check both writers' positions on this fascinating subject.

I've decided not to focus on my position on this issue now, because I am currently re-reading the exchange.  But I did want to point out that this is what a discussion on politics and policy should look like between a liberal and a conservative.  In reading these posts, I am reminded of precisely what is missing in our political discourse:  substance.  And we are suffering from that loss.  Imagine our political leaders (though I think President Obama tries) having a substantive and actually informative discussion on issues.  What we get now is an assortment of empty rhetoric, pedantic talking points and meaningless sound bites.   

We need a real return to a discussion of issues in a substantive manner.  We need to force Americans legitimately interested in solving our many problems to step up to the intellectual (and civil) plate and play ball on a higher plane.  The Greenwald/Sullivan discussion can serve as a template.  What have we to lose by trying?

1 comment:

Micheal Sisco said...

Nice post, Free ... Though I side with Sullivan (in a BIG way) on this one, I think there needs to be a cool headed discussion about it.

There's a real danger here ... for the pro-"get him" side, there could be a slippery slope in "getting" a known and public member of al-Qaeda and sliding down to "getting" the guy who waves a placard that says "Down with the government" (and given the Bush administrations abuses under cover of the Patriot Act, that's not too far fetched) ...

For the other side, I think a slippery slope is also apparent ... we run the risk of analyzing ourselves into immobility at a time when rapid action (and a good aim) is crucial ... If Tom Tuttle from Tacoma comes at me on the battlefield, waving a scimitar and screaming "Alla-u-Akbar," I don't really have time to read him his Miranda rights ... gotta take the shot ...

We are at war. With al-Qaeda. Al-a-Dickie is a public, outspoken, proud, card-carrying member of the organization who encourages others to kill Westerners in general and Americans in particular ...

I think we should take the shot when it is available ... Consider it a PERMANENT inoculation of that particular strain of the god virus ...